Upon seeing a pie chart which explains that 2/3rds of Rep. Ryan's budget cutting plan comes directly from cutting programs that benefit low-income citizens, worshiper of all things serious, Andrew Sullivan, finds a way to make sure the Democrats are still worse:
Agreed. Which is why the Democrats now need to provide a way to get equivalent savings by fairer means. If they could stop politicking and demagoguing, this is a major opportunity to contrast their vision of shared sacrifice with the GOP's.
Holy fuck, dude. This is some unbelievable shit right here. Did you really miss the last 12 months where the Dems tried to help fix the deficit by enacting a whopping 3% tax increase on income above $200,000 and were turned into America-hating, job-killing, class-warfare-waging, commi-socialists ? (not to mention Death panels ? Cutting Medicare !) Three percent! They got slaughtered by the media who, in love with the dipshit teabaggers, refused to explain to its audience what a "marginal tax rate" is, how our tax system works, what 3% really means in this context, etc.. For three fucking percent on income above $200K.
For those who don't know our tax system: this means that if you made $200,001 and the tax rate for income above $200K went up 3%, you'd pay $0.03 more. Wow! Right?
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Do you know the median personal income in the US ? Sullivan? Look it up. After you've done that, and then pushed your eyes back into their sockets, take another look at that pie chart - a long look. And think about what Ryan is proposing vs. what the Dems got beat down over. And tell us again who the real demagogues are. Do it.
Seriously.
love your fractional 2rds when talking about Ryan’s shit sandwich.
aw shit. twas a typo. need to fix that.
liked it better as 2rds, read like “turds”…
Sullivan is a schmuck.
Democrats now need to provide a way to get equivalent savings by fairer means.
How about raising the marginal tax rates on high income earners. Maybe back to Clinton-era levels. Maybe higher rates on higher levels of income?
The notion that the deficit/debt can only be addressed by spending cuts rather than a combination of cuts and revenue increases is asinine. And that’s the message the Democrats ought to be hammering the GOP with. But they’ve got no balls.
But they’ve got no balls.
they really don’t.
the Dem leadership makes it hard to be a Dem, sometimes.
Monster rant. I can’t add anything, but this is what we all need to be hammering home to our relatives and office mates who parrot the BS.
BTW, who is Jesse Ventura?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlmdWycCOQU
“You want change, its easy! Stop Voting Democrats and Republicans!!”
he’s a former pro wrestler, former Minnesota governor.
quite a character, really.
I don’t even know what to say anymore. My Facebook feed is filled with people I went to high school with who parrot this crap and seemingly have no idea how the people they are cheering on are planning to bend them over the sofa. Your reality over there is so far removed from what I live under it is becoming surreal.
Righteous rant!
i should note that i sent a version of this to Sullivan before posting it here. no reply, obviously.
but today, he lets a reader tell his other readers how marginal taxes work.
baby steps?
nailed it. ive been trying to put into words exactly how absurd the whole debate is, and that rant does the job better than i ever could.